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Katherine Council - On her childhood, family, and changes in Northside
This interview provides an overview of the place and birth of Mama Kat. Her house burnt down in 1962. She notes the change in neighbors versus before. She had children graduating from college. Her 3 kids were in college at the same time. The last baby was born with down syndrome. She recounts the…
Katherine Council - On her childhood, family, and changes in Northside

Katherine Council
"My name is Katherine Council and everybody calls me Mama Kat for the simple reason that when I had my first grandchild I didn’t want to be called grandma because I didn’t want men to stop looking at me!"
- Katherine "Mama Kat" Council
Born and raised in Northside, Katherine "Mama Kat" Council…
Katherine Council
Katherine Council - On her children and growing up outside of Carrboro
In this impromptu interview done at Heavenly Groceries Food Ministry, Katherine “Mama Kat” Council tells us what it was like growing up right outside of Carrboro back in the 1930’s. She recalls how for a while her family had to use a wagon to get to Hamlet’s Chapel CME on Sundays. She also discusses…
Katherine Council - On her children and growing up outside of Carrboro
Katherine Council - On her pound cake recipe
In this interview, Mama Kat gives us her coveted pound cake recipe, which she knows from memory because she makes it so often.
Katherine Council - On her pound cake recipe
Katherine Council - On education, changes in the community, and racial discrimination
“I really think with children, it didn’t matter. It was the adults that were having problems.” (In reference to integration)
- Katherine "Mama Kat" Council
Ms. Council, fondly known as Mama Kat, grew up on a farm in Chapel Hill down Jones Ferry Road and has lived in various places in the area her…
Katherine Council - On education, changes in the community, and racial discrimination
Katherine Council - On growing up in Chapel Hill and changes in the neighborhood
In Molly Norwood’s interview of Katherine “Mama Kat” Council, Council begins by describing what life was like when she was growing up in Chapel Hill. She describes how open and geographically spread out the neighborhood was, how she was constantly playing with the other children in the neighborhood,…
Katherine Council - On growing up in Chapel Hill and changes in the neighborhood
Katherine Council and Lillian Alston - On Heavenly Groceries, St. Joseph's Church, and the importance of volunteering
This interview is a part of the Marian Cheek Jackson Center’s A Place at the Table series. Katherine Council and Lillian Alston talk about their time volunteering with Heavenly Groceries. Katherine describes the origin of the food ministry before both women discuss their ties to the community and…
Katherine Council and Lillian Alston - On Heavenly Groceries, St. Joseph's Church, and the importance of volunteering
Katherine Council - On food, cooking, and recipes
In this interview, Mama Kat, a cooking and baking extraordinaire, shares some of her kitchen expertise including tips and favorite recipes. Mama Kat learned how to cook from her parents and grandparents, and now writes down her recipes in cookbooks for others to follow. She discusses how products…
Katherine Council - On food, cooking, and recipes
Katherine Council - On home, family, and changes in Chapel Hill
In this interview, Katherine “Mama Kat” Council talks about home and family. She discusses her parents, including her father’s death and her mother’s garden, and she describes where she grew up in rural Chapel Hill. Growing up was very different when Mama Kat was a child; she went to work and…
Katherine Council - On home, family, and changes in Chapel Hill
Katherine Council - Holiday Memories (clip)
Katherine "Mama Kat" Council recalls students and neighbors at the holidays.To hear more from Katherine Council, listen to her full oral history "Katherine Council - On growing up in Chapel Hill and changes in the neighborhood."
Katherine Council - Holiday Memories (clip)
Mildred Council - On food, business, and Mama Dip's
Food is inextricably woven into Mildred Council’s life story. She grew up on a farm outside of Chapel Hill and cooked mostly out of necessity, and her main concerns were cost and practicality. She started learning from her father when she was nine years old, and as she grew up she held different…
Mildred Council - On food, business, and Mama Dip's

Mildred Council
"All of us cooked except one. And we learned how by eyes, you know."
- Mildred Council
Mildred Council
Mildred Council - On her family, segregation, restaurant business, and Head Start
"“[I don’t think] that there would be anything that I would have done differently. I really don’t."
- Mildred Council
This interview was recorded in 1994 for the Southern Oral History Program. Mildred Council, born in Chatham County in 1929, is the owner of Mama Dip’s Kitchen in Chapel Hill. She…
Mildred Council - On her family, segregation, restaurant business, and Head Start
Mildred Council - On her mother (clip)
Mildred Council - On her mother (clip)

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William Cureton - On the African American freedom struggle and Civil Rights Movement in Chapel Hill (Interview One)
Audio recordings of interviews conducted by Yonni Chapman with participants in the African American freedom struggle and the civil rights movement in and around Chapel Hill, N.C.
William Cureton - On the African American freedom struggle and Civil Rights Movement in Chapel Hill (Interview One)
William Cureton - On the African American freedom struggle and Civil Rights Movement in Chapel Hill (Interview Two)
Audio recordings of interviews conducted by Yonni Chapman with participants in the African American freedom struggle and the civil rights movement in and around Chapel Hill, N.C.
William Cureton - On the African American freedom struggle and Civil Rights Movement in Chapel Hill (Interview Two)
Rani Dasi - On Education
"I don’t love [the phrase] achievement gap cause I think we hear in literature that it’s not a question of effort it’s usually a question of access to resources."
- Rani Dasi
This interview is a part of the Marian Cheek Jackson Center series on education. Rani Dassi is a member of the Chapel Hill…
Rani Dasi - On Education
Rani Dasi
Rani Dasi
Rani Dasi - On how CHCCS presents (clip)
Rani Dasi - On how CHCCS presents (clip)
Rani Dasi - On what she's most proud of during her school board tenure (clip)
Rani Dasi - On what she's most proud of during her school board tenure (clip)
Rani Dasi - On learning to read (clip)
Rani Dasi - On learning to read (clip)
Rani Dasi - On being homeschooled (clip)
Rani Dasi - On being homeschooled (clip)
Rani Dasi - What her mother taught her about education (clip)
Rani Dasi - What her mother taught her about education (clip)