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 David Caldwell, Jr. - On the integration of Lincoln High School, family, and civil rights

In this interview, the second of two 2017 interviews conducted by Andrea Wuerth, David Caldwell, Jr., discusses his experiences in the newly-integrated Chapel Hill High School. He remembers the difficult early years, describing his accidental role in the riots that took place in Fall 1971, his…

 David Caldwell, Jr. - On his education, sports experience, and family's involvement in law enforcement and the military

"That's what I try to instill, doing what’s right when no one is looking." - David Caldwell, Jr. David Caldwell is a native of Chapel Hill and long time community organizer and activist in the Rogers Road community. Mr. Caldwell brought materials to be scanned during the interview, and large…

 Hilliard Caldwell - Role of adults in leading in the movement, conclusion (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Not allowing the white structure to control the Civil Rights Movement in Chapel Hill (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Greensboro Sit-Ins and first sit-ins in Chapel Hill (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Late 1950s activism as PTA president to advocate for a safe crossing over a creek on the way to the school (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Watching the news on television in the 1950s (clip)

John Kenyon “Yonni” Chapman (YC): Did your family have a television? Hilliard Caldwell (HC): Mmm, later on in life, I think we bought—there was one about fifty-two, fifty-three I can’t remember ( )- YC: Do you remember hearing about or seeing on television the situation in Little Rock [Arkansas]…

 Hilliard Caldwell - Learning Black history, Brown v. Board of Education (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Grandma Flacks on the way to Northside School (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Violent August 1937 incident (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Mary Mason and Harold Foster (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Harold Foster and his leadership ability (clip)

Interviewer: Tell me when did you first get to know Harold Foster? Hilliard Caldwell: I was a senior, and he was a freshman, I think. If I’m not mistaken, if I look at my high school newspaper for some reason it was either Harold or Mary Mason always had superlatives. Interviewer: You always had…

 Hilliard Caldwell - Liberal white citizens in Chapel Hill (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Campus Y meeting between Lincoln and Chapel Hill High School students (clip)

Interviewer: Tell me about these meetings at the Campus Y. Hilliard Caldwell: They were heralded as human relations sessions between representatives of one high school and another. We talked about commonality among teenagers. We talked about how we could, if we were allowed to improve race…

 Hilliard Caldwell - Students who were involved with the Campus Y meeting (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Interaction between white and Black students in 1955-1956 at the Campus Y (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - The extent to which ministers addressed segregation (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Shifting from First Baptist to St. Joseph CME to United Church of Christ (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Church as food for thought (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Mother’s second marriage (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Class size in schools and economic class divisions in the community (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - How teachers talked about segregation (clip)

Interviewer: How would your teachers teach you to deal with the society? Hilliard Caldwell: They said it’s wrong. We know it’s wrong, but this is the way the South is. This is the way society is here. That there would be two separate schools. That we have two separate churches and there will be…

 Hilliard Caldwell - Dedication of teachers and his grades (clip)

Interviewer: Tell me more about the Black schools that you grew up in, not just when you were in high school but even before that. What were they like? What did that mean for you? Hilliard Caldwell: It meant that… I have to admit that we had darn good teachers. They cared. They were genuine. They…

 Hilliard Caldwell - Teachers in the community, integration (clip)

Hilliard Caldwell: Teachers lived in the community. Teachers attended churches of their choice within the Black community. Parents had a chance to see teachers, not necessarily at school. Teachers also attended the churches in their community. That is not the case today. A large contingency of our…