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 Hilliard Caldwell - Harold Foster and his leadership ability (clip)

Interviewer: Tell me when did you first get to know Harold Foster? Hilliard Caldwell: I was a senior, and he was a freshman, I think. If I’m not mistaken, if I look at my high school newspaper for some reason it was either Harold or Mary Mason always had superlatives. Interviewer: You always had…

 Hilliard Caldwell - Liberal white citizens in Chapel Hill (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Campus Y meeting between Lincoln and Chapel Hill High School students (clip)

Interviewer: Tell me about these meetings at the Campus Y. Hilliard Caldwell: They were heralded as human relations sessions between representatives of one high school and another. We talked about commonality among teenagers. We talked about how we could, if we were allowed to improve race…

 Hilliard Caldwell - Students who were involved with the Campus Y meeting (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Interaction between white and Black students in 1955-1956 at the Campus Y (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - The extent to which ministers addressed segregation (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Shifting from First Baptist to St. Joseph CME to United Church of Christ (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Church as food for thought (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Mother’s second marriage (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Class size in schools and economic class divisions in the community (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - How teachers talked about segregation (clip)

Interviewer: How would your teachers teach you to deal with the society? Hilliard Caldwell: They said it’s wrong. We know it’s wrong, but this is the way the South is. This is the way society is here. That there would be two separate schools. That we have two separate churches and there will be…

 Hilliard Caldwell - Dedication of teachers and his grades (clip)

Interviewer: Tell me more about the Black schools that you grew up in, not just when you were in high school but even before that. What were they like? What did that mean for you? Hilliard Caldwell: It meant that… I have to admit that we had darn good teachers. They cared. They were genuine. They…

 Hilliard Caldwell - Teachers in the community, integration (clip)

Hilliard Caldwell: Teachers lived in the community. Teachers attended churches of their choice within the Black community. Parents had a chance to see teachers, not necessarily at school. Teachers also attended the churches in their community. That is not the case today. A large contingency of our…

 Hilliard Caldwell - Punishment and role of school (clip)

Hilliard Caldwell: Child abuse was never mentioned. It was not even a word. Abuse was not even mentioned back in those days. We got many a [unclear.] And as Eddie Murphy used to say in one of his jokes, that his mom used to whup him and said, the louder he cried the louder she whupped. And he said,…

 Hilliard Caldwell - Childcare while mother worked (clip)

Interviewer: Do you remember after your father died, which was during the war, and your mother having to raise the four of you on her own, that meant that she must have been working a lot, do you have any memory of what her hours of work would be? Hilliard Caldwell: She would be gone all day. She’d…

 Hilliard Caldwell - Janitor’s association (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Fraternity work (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - His parents (clip)

Interviewer: I’m going to try to get straight on a few of the things that he’s already mentioned. Could you tell me your birth date? Hilliard Caldwell: February 26, 1937 Interviewer: Were you born at home? Hospital? Hilliard Caldwell: Yes, I was one of those home babies attended to by a midwife back…

 Hilliard Caldwell - Career in public administration (clip)

 Hilliard Caldwell - Brothers in law enforcement (clip)

Hilliard Caldwell: My brothers’ backgrounds are varied. The leading career in my family was law enforcement. I have two brothers who have many years of law enforcement experience. One of the older brothers was the first full-time Black policeman in Chapel Hill. Interviewer: Who was that? Hilliard…

 Hilliard Caldwell - Introductions (clip)

Interview with Hilliard Caldwell

This video, created by Judith Van Wyk, was part of a project by Van Wyk documenting the impact and legacy of the desegregation of Chapel Hill Carrboro City Schools. Courtesy of Judith Van Wyk. Video may not be altered in any way.

 Hilliard Caldwell - On the African American freedom struggle and Civil Rights Movement in Chapel Hill (Interview Two)

"I was about 23, and I was married, and even my mom said, 'you ought not to be doing that,' and I said, 'Well, I’m sorry mom, but we have to.'" - Hilliard Caldwell Hilliard Caldwell, a Black activist in the Chapel Hill/Carrboro area during the Civil Rights movement, explains his role in the…

 Hilliard Caldwell - On the African American freedom struggle and Civil Rights Movement in Chapel Hill (Interview One)

“It was hard times, but it was good times. It was hard times, but it was fair times. It was hard times, but we appreciated what was there. We appreciated our parents, we appreciated the school structure, the community structure, the church structure. All of these were important components of growing…